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November 11, 2020 at 12:52 AM #12789BenKeymaster
Loving that the rankings are back, buddy!
That’s good cuz I got another one for ya!
Oh man I don’t want to “celebrate” but a SS game on 11/10 seems like the right thing to do…hhahah
Even more fitting if you combined it with RtSS/Unreleased stuff heh. Good luck topping the SS anniversary game! XD
November 15, 2020 at 6:08 AM #12859BenKeymasterI do not plan to run the Pirates CSG Hall of Fame voting this year. With pitiful participation two years running, I don’t see much reason to continue it until more people participate. I’m fine if the other Moderators here run a vote in December or January, but I feel it doesn’t mean a lot if barely any positive votes are required for entry….
November 29, 2020 at 11:37 AM #13004Mr. WickParticipantDumb question, but is it just assumed that all generic crew from the Cursed faction are automatically undead? I mean aside from the obvious crew game pieces, lore wise. It makes a lot of sense for the crew of someone like El Fantasma to be ghosts, and the crew of Stephen “Sargasso Nightmare” Kalhoun are obviously Trogs. But I’m specifically referring to the crew of lesser cursed. I can’t image the Master Scribe having a crew of zombies when he himself is not one. The same for Tabitha McWarren, who while being a ghost is not explicitly known to employ undead of fiendish creatures.
Then for even lesser cursed captains who don’t have pieces, like Captain Zanna of the Loa’s Justice whose crew are described as being escaped slaves, and Aleida Newport of the Fiddler’s Green who doesn’t seem outright cursed, but simply made a deal with someone or something for outlandish luck.
December 1, 2020 at 12:55 PM #13005XerecsModeratorThe artwork for generic cursed crew seem to indicate that they’re all some kind of undead, either a zombie or walking corpse or some sort of ghost/phantom.
You make a good point though, not all of the cursed are undead or some kind of specter, but a majority of the ones we see are.
December 2, 2020 at 5:03 PM #13006Mr. WickParticipantAnother dumb question: Obviously all the game pieces (except for the poke’ships and sea monsters) are based on real world ship models (i.e. 1 Mast Galley = Barbary Fusta, 4 Mast = Galleon, etc.). I’m assuming the two-masted square rigged ship is a Brig and the two-masted “Blockade Runner” is a Ketch?
December 2, 2020 at 5:43 PM #13007XerecsModeratorI’m not that familiar with historical names of ships, but I’d assume so?
December 9, 2020 at 1:39 PM #13009Ochobrazo2298ParticipantAttention @anyone who wants the Chum Maker it’s being sold on ebay currently
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December 24, 2020 at 12:04 PM #13027BenKeymasterAnother life goal complete – play a game of Pirates on water. 😀 Courtesy of a quarantine aboard a US Navy destroyer. 😀
December 24, 2020 at 3:41 PM #13029XerecsModeratorNice! Looks like English v Pirates.
December 25, 2020 at 4:54 AM #13032BenKeymasterI’m assuming the two-masted square rigged ship is a Brig and the two-masted “Blockade Runner” is a Ketch?
Definitely correct on the brig… the artwork for the “blockade runner” type started off as essentially just a sloop, since in the early sets the foresail did not have a mast connected to it, so in terms of artwork it was very similar to a one masted sloop. In later sets Wizkids added foremast artwork so the foresail wasn’t by itself, but it still doesn’t look like what I’m seeing for a modern ketch, or a ketch from the 18th century for example.
January 2, 2021 at 9:32 AM #13038Mr. WickParticipantIs it possible they are cutters?
Dumb follow up question, but what would the average crew size have been for your typical 3 or 4 masted schooner
February 4, 2021 at 10:43 AM #13040BenKeymasterIs it possible they are cutters?
Good point, I think you’re right! (the version without any square rigged sails of course)
Dumb follow up question, but what would the average crew size have been for your typical 3 or 4 masted schooner
No idea. I don’t recall reading about those ships being used in naval warfare. I think a lot of the big schooners were built after most Age of Sail battles.
February 4, 2021 at 2:19 PM #13043BenKeymasterSaw this in a survey response:
Why do you think Pirates CSG hasn’t returned?
“game “depth” versus collecting, too many different ships”
I like how many ships there are, but does anyone agree? I think more in-depth combat rules would make games with lots of ships take even longer, which would be a bit of an issue for me.
February 6, 2021 at 10:52 AM #13044BenKeymasterPirates CSG ship briefly seen in a popular video. Never thought about sending ships to random popular people/content creators lol, maybe a worthwhile idea. 🙂
February 8, 2021 at 10:35 AM #13046WoelfModeratorPirates CSG ship briefly seen in a popular video. Never thought about sending ships to random popular people/content creators lol, maybe a worthwhile idea.
That’s a blink-and-you’ll-miss-it moment. How did you even spot that? Was there some lead up to it earlier in the video, or did you hear about it elsewhere?
Saw this in a survey response:
Why do you think Pirates CSG hasn’t returned?
“game “depth” versus collecting, too many different ships”
I like how many ships there are, but does anyone agree? I think more in-depth combat rules would make games with lots of ships take even longer, which would be a bit of an issue for me.
I like the incalculable number of options that exist by having so many different things available. It may have deterred a handful of people in the later days of the game who were overwhelmed bu the sheet amount of stuff available, but I don’t think it had any meaningful effect on the game ending and isn’t a factor in preventing its return.
Better rules would be a great benefit. Not necessarily more in-depth or more complex, but cleaner, with far fewer ambiguities, and some sort of plan to keep things consistent even as new parts get added.
As an aside, has anyone ever determined an exact count of how many different “unique” items are in the game? For the sake of argument, let’s go with the following guidelines:
- Each type of generic crew counts once for each nation. (A generic English Captain is a generic English Captain, regardless of set, item number, or artwork.)
- Items with a “Limited” and “Unlimited” version only count once.
- Alternate language versions only count extra if there are significant differences from their English-language version (e.g. the four German SM ships).
- Items with identical functions but with completely different names and/or nations would all count separately (copycat crew across nations, UTs that repeated in DPotC with new names.)
- Minor variances in text are ignored for otherwise identical items (e.g. the REV ships with the pointless Broadsides note).
- Don’t count things that were never released (RtSS, Adventure Book).
Of course that still leaves a bunch of things in limbo, like the “ghost ship” promos early on where the only real change was artwork and flavor text, the Jade Rebellion ships that returned in later sets with new flags but (mostly) identical stats, identical “reprints” like Rum (SM vs. DPotC) and Abandoned Crew (CC vs. MI), or things that exist in physical form but were technically never released (Ships in Bottles, prototypes).
Islands and terrain are a whole other can of worms.
February 17, 2021 at 11:33 PM #13061Mr. WickParticipantI as never able to collect anything beyond Davy Jones Curse sadly (my local stores stopped carrying the game), so I never got to experience the Mysterious Islands, or the Frozen North etc. But I’m kind of glad for some reasons because now looking at the Viking ships I’m irritated. They look cool, but they are NOT longships and do not deserve such titles.
February 18, 2021 at 4:07 PM #13066XerecsModeratorReally? What are they more like then?
February 19, 2021 at 4:50 PM #13067Mr. WickParticipantThat’s the thing, they don’t look like anything historically. Longships only really ever had one deck and even the largest only ever had 1 mast, which was square rigged. The 1 masted longships look like Cogs with oars (which would maybe make them karvis?) but the two and three masted longships don’t resemble actual longships (Knarrs, Snekkjas, Drakkars, etc.), they look like an odd hybrid between galley and carrack with viking themes.
February 19, 2021 at 9:08 PM #13068XerecsModeratorInteresting. I’m not familiar with types of ship, at least historically. Are they similar to a Trireme?
February 19, 2021 at 10:42 PM #13070Mr. WickParticipantA historical longship was similar in shape to a trireme, but it was only one row of oars (one deck), like a large canoe with a mast and deck. The pcsg longships (of two or more masts) has a fore and aftercastle deck which longships don’t have. Galleys don’t really have them either, but their height would have been common on carracks.
February 20, 2021 at 1:23 AM #13071Mr. WickParticipantIn an unrelated issue, does anyone know what kind of ship was the inspiration for the windcatchers Their sail plan is a bit baffling so I’m not immediately able to identify any real world counterpart.
February 20, 2021 at 11:48 AM #13072BartekParticipantanother unrelated note-
wish they made more turtle ships, including two-masters.
And gave them some smoke ability to hide them, just like the originals did.
In real life they were pretty big, with about 100-120 crew/oarsmen, and 50 soldiers.
February 21, 2021 at 12:08 PM #13076BenKeymasterHow did you even spot that? Was there some lead up to it earlier in the video, or did you hear about it elsewhere?
It was originally posted on the subreddit, I just wanted to give it a little more attention.
As an aside, has anyone ever determined an exact count of how many different “unique” items are in the game?
Gladius has done some work on that from what I’ve seen on the Discord.
March 17, 2021 at 9:02 AM #13088jetmoto-1996ParticipantI am so glad to already have a Sautez Le Requin that I bought years ago… That being said there is an auction on Ebay right now for one and the price is popping off! Its up to like $33 + Shipping, Just crazy for a 3 mast longship that doesn’t actually play that well….
March 30, 2021 at 1:48 PM #13098BartekParticipantOk, n00b question…
http://www.wholesalegaming.biz/pirates/piratesseplunderpack/
what ship is the glowing one n the plunder pack? Delusion? or sth else? Or is it random?
March 31, 2021 at 10:56 AM #13099Fitzroy_McCandlessParticipantHey all, I’ve been absentee from this forum for a hot minute. I just redid my office and rediscovered a box of unpunched ships (like a hundred) and my fever has come back full force XD
I’m about to try and build some custom ships for the first time, from scratch, and was wondering if anyone else here has tried this? I’ve got a photo quality printer, cardstock, a laminator and Adobe photoshop so I’m feeling confident I can get kinda close (especially since I’m going to be using scans of punched cards as templates)
Thoughts?
April 13, 2021 at 10:10 AM #13106Robert FosterParticipantI apologize for not being around, medical issues and family problems have kept me away from even finishing my ships, though I will be back hammering at it soon enough.
April 13, 2021 at 10:14 AM #13107Robert FosterParticipantI made some ships, link in the custom ships thread, making ships is fun, and challenging, you have to think about points vs abilities
April 18, 2021 at 7:23 AM #13110ChrisParticipantI have a nephew I’m looking to introduce Pirates to. He has an interest in dragons and other fantasy elements. Which faction(s) offer the most in that realm?
April 23, 2021 at 1:41 PM #13115XerecsModeratorI have a nephew I’m looking to introduce Pirates to. He has an interest in dragons and other fantasy elements. Which faction(s) offer the most in that realm?
The Cursed and the Pirates mostly. They have Sea Dragons in the Ocean’s Edge expansion. They’re a little difficult to get ahold of however, since they came on mega sized cards and were only available in the two player mega pack.
Other fantasy elements (other than Sea Monsters) would likely include the ships with moving parts, like Scorpions and Switchblades, as well as Bombadiers. These are linked more to a set than a faction. Scorpions can be found in the Rise of the Fiends set, and now that I recall all but one of them are Cursed, so I guess they’re faction specific.
Switchblades and Bombadiers are found in the Fire and Steel set, and almost all of the factions got one or the other.
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