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Thanks Woelf!
I’ve got more questions. 😀
The Code, Stacking Abilities, Pg 16
“If two or more abilities have the exact same “trigger” (or requirements) and produce the exact same effect they are
treated as the same ability and cannot be stacked, even if their text is slightly different.”Would this also apply to crew abilities and equipment abilities? For example, suppose I assign a Stinkpot Specialist to the same ship as Stinkpot Shot, would the abilities count as the same? Or does the last line of Stinkpot Shot prevent that?
Specialist:
Once per turn when this ship is given a shoot action, one of her cannons may shoot a stinkpot at a target within S of her. You must declare which cannon will shoot the stinkpot before rolling the d6. If the stinkpot hits, do not eliminate a mast; instead, the target’s crew cannot use their abilities on the target’s next turn.
Equipment:
Once per turn when this ship is given a shoot action, one of her cannons can shoot a stinkpot shot. You must declare which cannon will shoot the stinkpot shot before rolling the d6. If it hits, do not eliminate a mast; instead, the target’s crew can’t use their abilities on her next turn. If the cannon roll is a 1, remove Stinkpot Shot from the game.
-emphasis added.
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Xerecs, July 19, 2021
How many ships can you board with the S-Board ability on the same turn? Can you even use that ability to board more than one ship in a move action?
Woelf, July 22, 2021
You can only use it to board a single ship with each move action, but if you gain an additional move action, you can use it again against the same target or a completely different one.In the above I was wondering how many I could board with S-Board alone, and you answered one, per move action. Would that counter my above scenario where I’m ramming and using S-Board? Or would that still be allowed since I’m ramming one of the ships?
A point of clarity, if possible. Should the ability of the Inquistor from RotF be considered the same as the ability of the White Crew?
Inquisitor: If this ship succeeds at a boarding party, she can eliminate all of the other ship’s crew.
WC: If this ship succeeds at a boarding party, she may eliminate all of the other ship’s crew.
I tried looking in the code, but this ability doesn’t seem to have an entry.
Suppose I have a ship with S-Board. I move that ship to ram an opposing ship, and at the same time I get within S of a different opposing ship. Am I able to board both ships? One with traditional ram+board, and the other with the S-Board ability?
This ability may be applied immediately before or after any movement segment, including a “stern turn”
This line from the code is making me think that I could, though I’d have to S-Board before I rammed the other ship.
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You have to decide as soon as your ship touches the whirlpool if you’re going to use it or not. If you stop to tow the derelict, that puts you past that moment, so you’ll have to wait for another move action to tow the ship through.
Would this also apply to shooting with a captain?
Thanks for the replies Woelf. I’d like some more clarification, if possible.
Suppose there is a derelict ship on a whirlpool. I want to capture that ship and use the whirlpool to tow the ship away. Does my ships move action end when it initiates the tow?
I couldn’t find anything in the code about the move action ending, but I could have sworn it did. Also, if I initiate the tow, can I go through the whirlpool with that same move action?
Got a separate one about Carbon Charlie.
Carbon Charlie
When this ship is docked at your home island, you may eliminate one treasure. It becomes a rank 3 cannon that shoots short range and can only be eliminated when the ship sinks.
His ability doesn’t specify once per turn, only when. Suppose I use his ability on a ship at my home island. Could I free transfer him to a different ship at my home island and make a cannon on that ship? Or would this line from the Code prevent that?
You may create only one cannon per ship per turn.
Additionally,
“It’s not tied to any specific action,…”
Could I create a cannon with that ability, and then fire the cannon as part of a shoot action?
The Code, Lord Mycron, pg 29
“If you use this ability, this ship cannot be given any other actions this turn regardless of how many it could generate or would normally have available. This restriction also applies to free actions such as making a scuttle attempt or
transferring crew to or from an island.”Just to be sure, this prevents using the free transfer rule to move crew with that ability around, either from ship to island or ship to island to different ship? You couldn’t use the free transfer to move Mycron or some other crew around a circle of different ships to dole out actions, right?
Thanks Woelf, got another couple questions but about Sea Dragons.
“The Code, Sea Dragon, pg 37”
A swoop attack is considered a shoot action, so it cannot be used to attack a ship docked at its own home island.
The ability of Bianco’s Haulers would also prevent being shot at correct, or any similar ability?
Bianco’s Haulers
This ship can’t be shot at while docked.
Does a swoop attack need a line of sight to target a ship, or does the target ship simply need to be within L+L of the Sea Dragon’s base?
Can a Sea Dragon “land” on the same island as an enemy Marine crew? If it can, could the Marine shoot at it, or would the line of fire be blocked, as this section seems to suggest:
“The Code, Sea Dragon, Pg. 37”
If a sea dragon lands in the center of an island, that island will block line of fire to and from the sea dragon except where parts of it (particularly the wingtips) extend outside of the island.
Or is that section meant to mostly cover when a ship is shooting at a Sea Dragon?
Could a Sea Dragon target an enemy Marine on an island with a swoop attack, or can it only target “ships”? If it can target an enemy Marine on an island with a swoop attack, would the attack’s two damage eliminate the Marine?
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Suppose I have a source of All-Powerful in my fleet and I roll a 6. I send a target ship through a whirlpool and roll badly. Who chooses what gets eliminated? Me, the person temporarily controlling the ship, or the ships actual controller/owner?
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Gonna have to find a ship for this guy once he arrives IRL. Teaming him up with your version of Nelson will be epic if and when it happens in CoEC.
An impressive ship! Like the original WK ability, setting it on fire might be a decent way to get around it. Can’t wait to get my hands on this one, the English might need it in CoEC.
Suppose I have Savage Shores Wraith in my fleet, and he has snagged a couple crew. Can the crew that he saves be unloaded from the ship, or are they stuck there with him?
Ability: Whenever any crew is eliminated, roll a d6; on a result of 6, assign the crew to this ship. Its nationality changes to match the nationality of this ship and it becomes linked to this crew.
The Code entry doesn’t specify, but does have this line:
“If this ability is cancelled, eliminated, turned facedown, or removed from this ship, any previously recovered crew cannot use their abilities (unless allowed by some other ability or effect), they take up one cargo space each, and do count against the point limit of the ship. If this results in an illegal situation (the combined crew exceed the ship’s cargo and/or point limit) you must immediately resolve it by removing the excess crew from the game.”
The part about “cannot use their abilities” is meant to be applied for the ship they’re on, correct? Not what would happen if they were moved somewhere else in the fleet?
With no island involved in the transfer I think it would work. I don’t see anything in the Ransom keyword or its Code entry that prohibits transferring a Ransom crew between friendly ships.
It’s not part of the keyword I realized, but part of the ability text on some of the Limit/Ransom crew. The +5 crew specifically were what I was looking at.
“Limit. Ransom. Place this crew face up during setup. You may build your fleet using 5 more points than the game’s build total. This crew cannot leave this ship unless captured or eliminated.”
emphasis added.
That last line would prevent that crew from being transferred/unloaded in any way, correct?
A question about crew with the Ransom keyword. The Code states that they cannot be unloaded to an island unless captured, but says nothing about transferring them to another ship. Would it be possible to transfer a crew with ransom from one ship to another ship, by direct contact with an explore action? Or is the ransom crew “locked” onto whichever ship it is placed on during set-up?
Collier would go nicely with other cannon bonuses against the Americans, or by himself on a decent mid sized gunship. I don’t think his second ability would come up too often, but it could be pretty powerful, depending on the fort and how much treasure is inside it.
Wallace sounds like a great crew for dealing with fire masts, especially if you’re on the wrong end of a fire squad. Nice to see the Silver Explorer ability again.
The sails do have a very nice worn look to them. Also, another cheap “runner” for the English! Helmsman and explorer to scout islands for slightly slower ships, with space to potentially soak up a couple negative UT’s. Interesting ability too, could lend itself well in larger games.
Gold runner indeed, at least for the English. She’d be right up there with the Hound given her point cost and cargo space.
An impressive mid sized gunship! An impressive model too, can’t wait to see this one in the cards, I’m playing as the English for this years CoEC, this will certainly be on the radar for launches.
A nice little ship! I could see her being used as some kind of scout gold runner, exploring islands and soaking up bad UT’s. She’d be an odd option as a gunship, but could likely pull it off against the English, given that her +1 to d6 rolls would stack with other bonuses like cannons and boarding.
That said, you’d be hard pressed to get many crew on her, given the point and cargo restrictions, even with SS Charles Richard to open things up.Suppose a fleet has more than one Kraken/Octopus in it. Can Captain Davy Jones declare a target for both at the same time, or is he only able to declare targets one at a time for each Kraken/Octopus?
“If a kraken is in your fleet, Davy Jones can declare a ship a target of the kraken (see kraken rules).”
Kraken/Octopus keyword:
If you have Captain Davy Jones (PotC-057) in your fleet, you may use his ship’s action for the turn to declare an opponent’s ship the target of a kraken. That kraken gains +S to its base move but it can only shoot at the targeted ship (it may still surround other ships). The chosen ship remains the target until a new target (or “no target”) is declared, the targeted ship sinks, or the kraken is eliminated.Given the above, I’m leaning toward he can only declare one target at a time for one Kraken/Octopus.
I think that covers just about everything within those parameters. A variation where a ship gets +1 to all d6 rolls would include the above, but also die rolls for SAT/EA/Fleet Admiral, possibly to Mysterious Island effects, and any instance of needing to make a d6 roll for a UT or something.
Ooh, would +1 to d6 rolls against X be usable on ships and crew that have some kind of special attack? Similar to the Swoop from a Sea Dragon, or one of the Sea Monsters from DJC. Do you envision those falling under “cannon shots” or would they be a different thing in your mind?
Interesting little ship, a helmsman would likely be my got-to, get her moving 4S out the gate. her ability states “an island” as opposed to a wild island. With that wording you could get the +S from home islands, is this intentional?
The shoot action Captain Blackheart provides is tied to a move action, it’s not a full shoot action on it’s own. Think of it as Captain Blackheart having the generic captain ability with the SAC ability.
Per your scenario, if you rolled successfully with Crimson Angel, you would not be able to use the SAC part of Blackheart’s ability, but you would still be able to use the captain part of his ability (move and shoot). There is nothing that would prevent you from putting those crew together on the Harbinger, just be aware that you would not be able to give the Harbinger 3 actions in a turn, only 2 at most.
A neat ship! Seems like a hybrid to me, even though she’s a 2 mast ship. She ties the Friesland for the most cargo space on a Dutch ship (at least so far) and has a very handy ability, opening the door for all kinds of combos. Right off the bat I’m thinking Gentleman Jocard to boost cargo and gold running potential.